Sunday, May 17, 2015

Secession Would Allow for Renewed Group Rituals

The culture war is an ongoing fight with one side steadily winning each round as they are aligned with the referees. The larger picture though is that it is not purely that two sided struggle but an all against all struggle. We lack cultural cohesiveness. This is evident even in the most basic of national holidays like July 4th, the mishmash reaction to remembering 9/11, the patchwork of MLK day recognition and even the demonization of Columbus Day. These national ritual moments do not work or work opposite of the original intent. America loses cohesion by hitting these days, and not having enough to share culturally and socially, which only stresses our differences. Not a perfect solution but regional secession could allow for a renewal of group rituals that would affirm identities and what the Arabs call asabiyyah.

I've touched on the idea that there is no "America" but there are multiple Americas that different thedes envision when they think of their nation. Part of this is scale, but the other part is simply a population that is far more diverse not just in ethnicity or religion but simple life experiences. There is no shared struggle or experience that all Americans endured. The accrued cohesion from the nation enduring the Dust Bowl with the Great Depression (all regions hurt) followed up by the struggle of World War Two has long run out. A 90% white nation that was wrecked by a financial and agricultural crisis causing massive migration to vanquish foes on a global scale has some easy experiences to share and find common ground from which to build. America does not have that, and does not even have the same values to call one struggle or the other something all can share. A far more dangerous situation is how the founding myths of America have been turned into horrifying events by the progressive education and media system. Who-Whom and what is politically useful at the moment.

This is where regional secession starts to make sense. Founding myths are much easier to envision for regions, and far easier to celebrate without the need to appease the other thedes. The progressive Acela Corridor region could easily rework the Shining City on a Hill, Puritan perfection myth. The northeast, always striving for an idealistic utopia. The utopia might now be about "girls" with penises and gays getting married, but it would be marching forward from Puritan origins. The South has Dixie, and without having to be sensitive to blue staters, could celebrate the Stars and Bars, cry the Rebel yell, and eat pecan pie made by women in gingham tops. Texas and California have their unique traits, and Texas practically is its own nation with strong Texas identity. Blacks would need a spot or else its move to Acela Corridor and avoid evil, racists whites in Dixie and the Midwest. The Heartland with it's flyover Christianity could celebrate the prioneer-farmer-Christian outpost myth of settling and working with the land. Those monuments to the Indian Wars (they exist) could be publicly celebrated without a progressive chastising the crowd. The West could embrace the Euros who made it to the ends of the earth pioneer/freedom spirit.

Smaller units, whether state or region, make more sense because of our scale issue and immigration transformation. Consider Steve Sailer's points on the Romney vs. Obama voter breakdown. There is the core versus the fringe. There is also the happily married white voters go Romney and "affordable family formation" voters go Republican ideas. The red vs. blue divide started with simple votes and has carried down to a cultural split of Starbucks SWPLs vs. NASCAR 'Muricans with differing points of view on religion, family size, food or fitness. One cannot argue that even blue states share a common form of liberalism as California is shaped by Mexican immigration into acting like a socialist Latin America nation while New England is so white that it resembles Western Europe. Would the Mex-Ams want to embrace Massachusetts' pushed degeneracy? They shut down gay marriage in 2008. America has stuffed far too much diversity and wildly different groups, not just ethnic but racial and religious, that there is no cohesive culture. That is all social legislation is in our culture war: the legal codification of one's culture on the other because socially, no one feels secure in their culture's dominance anymore.

With such a wide swath of humanity to appeal to, lowest common denominator and inclusion makes shared meaning moments or pushes far less effective. Broken into smaller units with a more homogeneous population, the number of items shared of the population rises. It becomes easier to focus on the shared traits to celebrate and enforce through rituals for an oceanic feeling of oneness with the group, community and wider social unit. The racial splits caused by immigration actually would help enforce smaller states from merging because with renewed cause for community building and years spent defining and enforcing said identity, why would anyone want to merge back into the American identity? What identity? How different is the selection process for the tribe of that unit? It will probably be too different to merge. In a regional break up scenario, the irony would be each region (sans California or Texas) being able to say they are carrying on the true American ethos or character.

These would be cultural and social actions with overt or implied government support, but there would be a way for a government to supply a tailwind to these acts. However one would rearrange their region, our cities could be a huge opportunity for this group ritual and social cohesion issue. For decades, cities were and are managed for the needs of the progressive machine and democratic politics. New York's "Deep City" could only let so much dysfunction occur before destroying Tammany or later, starting "Giuliani Time!". Baltimore is a nice example because in the '70s and '80s, the $1 homes program and other homesteading acts were progressive endorsed programs to save the city and pull in decent inhabitants. They had to do this so the pus filled city would not become Mad Max to the point where Democrats lost over and over. Fix the rot just enough. Now that the progressives need dysfunctional people, the heroin trade can set up in West Baltimore, and since federal control of local police is desired by the cathedral, they will encourage and enable the underclass to burn the city down. Imagine our cities oriented towards safety, security and shared enjoyment. A proper physical removal of problem groups from cities would come first. Think of all the formerly horrid, worthless real estate that suddenly becomes valuable and empty. Those wretched neighborhoods in Memphis and Cincinnati once had kids riding bikes after 7pm and low crime. A massive city reclamation and rehabilitation project could pull in the young to work on cleaning up the cities and simple public works like small parks. A policy quirk could be, you rehab the area and clean out a house, you get it (tax auction properties are in the thousands in some cities). The German expression volksgemeinschaft comes to mind as this would be work to reinvigorate the community and create the shared experience and struggle in reclaiming what was lost but building something new that is worthy.

Does this fix everything? No. Does it allow for a healthier group celebration because it allows for exclusion of groups or those not aligned with the group's interest? Yes. The absence of forced inclusion helps strengthen the focus on the group proper. This can fight atomization by recognizing that there is a shared struggle and identity, and that you, random member of the community, have felt that struggle and contribute to the group's experience. This is why that nagging feeling happens each 9/11 or July 4th. You cannot indulge in the anger at the attacking Muslims because Joe Rothstein on MSNBC will mention that Muslims are victims of Western profiling and microaggressions or the president himself will blurt out "Well, yeah, you know, Crusades!". That nagging feeling gets kicked up a notch when the forced diversity tokens show up in "Tribute to America" parades, shows or telecasts when you just spent months watching black protestors shout about Amerikkka and hating the nation. Money ties this nation together. Anything earned on price is lost on cost. The last symbol that Americans rallied around after 9/11, the American flag, is now on the cutting edge for offensive in California schools. Carrying on the sham and fraud is unhealthy. While not a panacea, secession and a regional break up could fix some of these problems of alienation and atomization.


PA said...

The tragedy and horror of our times has been the Clinton/Bush/Obama immigration. What the fuck do you do with all of the Somalians and Indio-Mestizo, the latter having been dumped into seemingly every cranny of our land?

History never ends and people find ways to claim a stake -- and sovereign land -- for their posterity. The softest scenario involves something like Southern pre-Civil Rights coexistence with blacks, maybe like opposite-color bishops on a chess board, proximate but never interacting. A more durable scenario involves repatriation or other forms of removal.

allamerican1952 said...

I will keep saying this until I am blue in the face ... this is not about the "Somalians and Indio-Mestizo." Who are the gatekeepers? Who? You know there are still many around the world who would give their right arm to come to the US for opportunity (much less the freebies that some quarters are providing thanks to the taxpayer), so why focus all the attention on the people coming here at the behest of the scoundrels who let them come?

All I am saying is "Who can blame them?" They want a better life. Their countries are failed states for the most part. If your ancestors crossed the Atlantic, chances are it is because they wanted the same thing. But times were different. They didn't just walk across a border into the great America freebie-land. They had to build it from scratch. Your ancestors probably were not aristocracy or they would have stayed where they were unless they feared getting their heads chopped off in a revolution or uprising of one kind or another.

So please. I urge all the hate mongers who want to turn aggression on the illegal immigrants. It is the gatekeepers who deserve your wrath. I don't like the immigration situation either but do some critical thinking and put the blame where it belongs. It is not the illegals who make and enforce the laws or who fund efforts to keep the gates open despite all logic that says American cannot afford this stupid policy.

You like low prices, well, you got it courtesy of China manufacturing and other low wage countries. Our so-called leaders have sold out the American citizen. It is called corruption and they are traitors not patriots helping the economy. So, go ahead and blame the hapless immigrant who has nothing. They are an easy target. Want to prove something ... stand up to the man!

KawaiiKraken said...

allamerican: I don't see why immigrants/refugees can't walk by the slightly rotten corpses of our decadent former elite on their way back to the boats and planes that will unceremoniously return them to their homelands.

Rifleman said...

Secession talk is similar to the talk of sexual losers who started a group called MGTOW - men go their own way.

Loser White guys get upset and then because they can't get what they want they decide they don't want to play anymore.

Secession has already happened, the rich have seceded from the poor and middle class.

The rich live in rich land anywhere in the world and only are interested in everyone else to the degree that it serves their interests.

PA said...

Rifleman manages to make allamerican1952 look intelligent.

Rifleman: secession in Yugoslavia and the USSR was crazy talk too and then it wasn't. If the US upper class had seceeded from the rest of us, then why are they collecting your income tax or interested in prole cops' racist texts?

AllAmerican1952: you miss the point. Once the gatekeepers are hypothetically done away with then there are still going to be non-whites and alien cultures occupying these newly established nations.

And fuck off with your "hatemongers" old fart.

Alexandros HoMegas said...

WWIII will happen before the Elite allows a secession of territories.

guy said...

Will secession happen? Not anytime soon. As long as the elites can maintain their hold on the reigns, the vast resources, dozens of ports, hundreds of military bases within the US outweigh any disadvantages of all the internal strife caused by disparate thedes, save this side of a civil war.

The rot can be papered over for decades through debt deflation/QE as in Japan, or generations through a strong police state, stool pigeons, and the destruction of our humanity as in stalinist ussr. That was the most haunting part about The Gulag Archipelago.

Though it may take a hundred years, Im interested in what comes after the US. Will the progressive virus spread and maintain hegemony in Australia or another former anglo colony, or will the Chinese or someone else usher in a different hegemony?

Portlander said...

Here's a question I've had for you, SoBL, that seems apropos for this thread.

If ~10% at the bottom of the middle-class skipping their mortgage payment brought about the Great Recession, what if ~10% of the top of the middle-class were to pull all their liquid savings from the FIRE economy?

We keep hearing how leveraged banks are. Well, their base, like the whole rest of the invade & invite economy, is the cis-gendered white male who creates the economic surplus for the rest of the hangers-on to skim.

The problem is 1) these white males are too busy working and providing for their family to engage in any kind of protest 2) many of them are locked into the system with golden hand-cuffs that as much as they are getting screwed out of the rightful fruits of their and their father's labor, they still have it much better than 80-90% of the rest of the country and 99% of the rest of the world. So, 3) anything they do has to be low-effort and low-risk to their employment situation (they don't call it wage-slavery for nothing). 4) There is the very real risk of Mutually Assured Destruction, but I believe therein lies the challenge to make feature out of a bug. If it is truly Assured, first-movers stand the best chance of landing on top after the reset, hence there is the potential to snowball and gain velocity in a positive-feedback loop.

Thought as to what would happen to banks if the 80-95% were to withdrawal all their liquid savings and checkings, currently earning 0.1% interest anyway, in the form of currency?

We need some manner of general strike where the 30-50 y.o. with a mortgage and college tuition payment doesn't risk his employment. We need some way for him to use his accumulated wealth to ju-jitsu the FIRE machine.

Son of Brock Landers said...

Portlander, that is a great ides and might be behind the pus now to ban cash. They dont want a cash protest. And if you dont have cssh, it makes gold buying a little tougher.

Portlander said...

One more thing. Read Wired's article on the Silk-Road?

The financial arm of the NRx needs a Dread Pirate Roberts.

The 30-60 y.o. white male needs a charismatic Jimmy Hoffa for the 2010's that he can rally around.

The solution is not political. The political process is rigged in too many ways to enumerate. As Roissy would understand, we need to reframe.

Portlander said...

RE: push to ban cash

Ironically, I had the "currency-strike" idea well before the recent renewal of the ban-cash meme. Nor have I seen a currency-strike idea discussed anywhere else. That ban-cash is becoming a thing, has made me wonder if that means the time for a strike is more ripe than I realize.

guy said...

Portlander, interesting idea. There has been a soft war on cash for some time now, but indeed it seems to be ratcheting up. Banks are required to submit a quota of suspicious activity reports on their clients even if no suspicious transactions occur. Making too many cash deposits under $10k can get your bank account siezed.

Whats changed recently is how openly the war on cash has become. Civil asset forfeiture is meant to discourage commoners from holding cash, and funnel them into the banking system. FATCA has discouraged americans from moving their assets out of the US banking system and made it more difficult for americans to expatriate. Economists from multiple countries are now openly calling for a ban on cash and using every reason under the sun (from fighting terrorism, to making negative interest rates possible). If you can eliminate cash, it makes doing a cyprus much easier.

guy said...

The beauty of your idea is it takes advantage of the instability of the current overleveraged financial system without much effort. And I do think there are a handful of things nearly any family can do to reduce their capital needs and taxes.

1) avoiding debt, or paying it off as soon as possible to avoid wage slavery. 2) move to a low cost/lower pay area. No soul crushing commute is a bonus. 3) reducing unnecessary purchases to forego the need of high paying jobs. Cash flow analysis to figure what can be done without. Im sure most people can crawl back 20% of their paycheck this way. 3) figure out where your biggest expenses are, consider starting a small business that barely makes a profit but allows the write off of those expenses. Obviously, make sure all the legal bases are covered. An example would be a health website where supplements, gym fees, certain medical expenses may be legitimate tax write offs.

Some of those ideas may be difficult, but I think all of us can implement at least half of those strategies. If enough do it, tax receipts and reserve ratios will collapse.

Portlander said...

Guy, I agree with your larger points, but all those extra things violate requirements 1 & 3.

The protest has to be reasonably passive and not jeopardize the 30-60 y.o. male's responsibility for his family's financial security. A lot of these upper middle class protests have failed because they are championed by kooks who mostly appeal to unattached 20-somethings and two they constitute a serious risk to the protestor with no pay-off if the thing fails to gain full effect.

A currency strike doesn't suffer those short-comings. The question in my mind, however, remains, would it really cause an effect? Is the system precarious enough that 10,000 people withdrawing $10-50k causes a discernible blip. A 100,000? A Million Man Bank March definitely would, but you have to walk before you can run, and TPTB will deny, deny, DENY any of it matters or is even making any a difference until the final end-game is at hand.

If you've read anything on the WaMu bank failure, there was a real and serious run on WaMu and at the same time a total cover-up that it was taking place to try and keep it contained.

guy said...

If it does work, Im curious what the response would be. Perhaps they would move to enact emergency powers and make cash illegal, or effectively illegal. Large penalties on cash transactions over a certain amount, fines or imprisonment for possession over a certain amount of cash. Perhaps a grace period or tax incentives to deposit the cash into an electronic bank account before the penalties take effect. I think Roosevelt did something similar with gold in the past.

guy said...

Looks like zerohedge took your idea. Maybe Simon Black reads 28sherman